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July 2007

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Laura Ries

OK Sam, actually history doesn't prove me wrong and let me explain why.

TAB out sold Diet Pepsi by 32% the day Coca-Cola introduced Diet Coke. TAB was a lousy name, just the internal code name The Alternative Beverage, but it was a very strong brand. What eventually killed it is that they kept using saccharine and didn't change the sweetner. Diet Coke got the new NurtraSweet. In addition, the whole diet industry exploded in the 1980's. Of course Diet Coke would succeed. When a line extension from the leader only faces competition from other line extensions then its line extension will win.

The lesson to be learned is that Diet Pepsi had no chance with its line extension brand. The number two guy is really trouble with an extension. Pepsi should have launched a diet product with great name. Preferably without the word "diet" in it.

As for GE, yes they have one business without the GE name, NBC. If they didn't buy it with the name already established they probably would have called it General Electric television. I have little doubt about that.

This is a complex issue. Some line extensions succeed not because they are a good idea, but because the competition is weak or non-existent.

Marketers need to be on the lookout for opportunities to launch new brands. But too many marketers only look for ways to stretch exsisting brands and as a result miss out.

Sam

This is the “Origin” of Brands blog right? Coca-Cola (and Pepsi) started a new brand in the diet category like you suggested. In the early 60s Coca-Cola launched their first diet cola called Tab. That same year Pepsi launched Patio Diet Cola, which, after realizing its branding mistake, rebranded it the following year as Diet Pepsi. Coke, however, followed your advice of launching new brands not “line extensions” until 1982, when it launched Diet Coke, the first new product to use the Coca-Cola trade mark since 1886. What you label as a “branding mistake”, quickly surpassed Tab in volume and became Coca-Cola’s 2nd largest selling product. It is now the number 1 selling diet soft drink in the US, and number 3 in the total soft drink category. Would Coca-Cola have been smarter to do otherwise? No. Sorry, Laura, history proves you wrong again.

And GE not facing focused competition in other categories besides mainframe computers??? You’re kidding us right? We won’t go into depth about the reason’s behind GE’s entry into the mainframe business, but to say that they were the largest buyer of mainframes at the time and thought they might save some money building them for themselves and perhaps trying to sell some on the side. Their reasoning was wrong, and the core problem with the attempt was not a brand/marketing issue. Finally, GE not having any other brand ??? Heard of the NBC?

Scott Miller

Laura, I'm really super interested in your latest thoughts on the iPhone. I wasn't going to buy one because I'm never an early adopter on new, unproven tech. But, many of my co-workers got one, and I was able to see first-hand how cool and simple this device is versus other smart phones. I went out and bought two (one for the wife). This phone is nothing short of revolutionary. It's simplicity is miraculous. I could never get my Blackberry or Blackjack to work with my mail properly, or surf the web, and the iPhone handles this flawlessly, and with the ease any child could handle it. I've yet to look at the phone's manual, and with my previous phone's I had to carry the manuals with me as a back-up all the time.

I predict within 2-3 years all cell phones will copy much that the iPhone has pioneered with its graphical touch screen interface, and the way the phone ties together contacts, the phone function, google mapping, and email all in a super tightly, simple integrated way that is supremely helpful and efficient. This thing is like Tivo--once you have it this good, you will never go back.

Nokia, Motorola and everyone else must be rushing to copy the iPhone. The paradigm shift has happened. This is my first Apple product ever -- it won't be my last.

Freddie Sirmans

Just browsing the internet, very interesting blog.

Ben Bacon

Somehow, I totally missed that. Today, I got it. Thanks, Bill. (Why, on a Thursday could I not understand something, yet on a Friday I could? Oy vey.)

Bill Gammell

@Laura - You should head on over to my blog and proofread (or better yet, don’t). I am actually not the best at it but I’m glad I could be of help.

@Ben – If I could take a moment and put words in Laura’s mouth. I think what Laura is saying is: "A company should launch a second brand when its initial brand is so strongly positioned in the mind that the new idea will undermine [the initial brand’s] meaning” (The word addition is mine).

In other words, since the Mini Cooper represents a “small, stylish car for the younger generation” in the mind, Mini Cooper could not launch a large SUV using the Mini Cooper brand because that would only confuse and hollow the meaning of “Mini Cooper”. Instead it would have to launch a second brand.

greg gillispie

Many radio stations are already confused as to how it positions new HD radio channels.

Currently, most stations that actually have HD only promote the channel's sound quality and how to get a new radio. Sales are slow...who needs a new "radio?"

But most stations with an HD channel have extended their brand - "WZYX HD2 - playing deeper tracks."

It would be so much better to brand it as a new channel - "Deep Album Tracks now on HD channel 96.2."

Of course, we have to buy one of those new contraptions to figure what HD is.

Ben Bacon

"A company should launch a second brand when its initial brand is so strongly positioned in the mind that the new idea will undermine its meaning."

This quote confused me. Do you mean that the new idea will NOT undermine its meaning?

Fantastic post, as always. You are an inspiration.

Laura

Thanks Bill. I thought about having 6 but then I didn't think the last one was totally a separate attribute. The ability to get PR really reflects the size of the opportunity and affects resources in terms of mangement's time. So PR is part of the other 5. I appreciate the proof-reading!

Bill Gammell

Laura,

Excellent post. However, I only see 5 brand attributes. Did you intend there to be 6 or is that the misprint and there are only 5?

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